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ws18

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Can convection element be used in the thermo-mechanical modeling
« on: February 14, 2018, 09:38:54 AM »
Dear all,

According to FEAP Manual, "the convection element is used with thermal elements" to consider convection and radiation boundary conditions. When I use convection elements with 2D and 3D thermal elements, I have no problem.

However, when I use convection element with FEAP built-in Thermomechanical solid element (small deformation version), the convection boundary condition cannot be imposed anymore. I also tried to use this convection element with my user thermomechanical element (finite deformation), still, the convection boundary condition cannot be imposed. Can convection element be used in the coupled thermomechanical analysis directly? It is also very possible that I used the convection element incorrectly, I really appreciate that someone can point out the mistakes in my inputfile (attached).

Thank you in advance.

Prof. S. Govindjee

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Re: Can convection element be used in the thermo-mechanical modeling
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2018, 12:50:46 PM »
Have you tried remapping the convection element dof to dof 4?

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Re: Can convection element be used in the thermo-mechanical modeling
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2018, 01:50:38 PM »
Dear Prof.Govindjee,

Thank you very much for your reply. I also think the DOF mismatching can be the reason. Would you please guide me how to fix this problem? Do I need to revise the convection element function (convec#d.f)?

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Wenya

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Re: Can convection element be used in the thermo-mechanical modeling
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2018, 02:20:21 PM »
Two things to try (separately):

1.  Set the temperature dof globally
Code: [Select]
GLOBal
TEMPerature DOF 4

2.  Alternately map the 4th global dof to dof 1 for the convection element.
Code: [Select]
MATErial 2
CONVection,,2,4
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Re: Can convection element be used in the thermo-mechanical modeling
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2018, 12:12:39 PM »
Dear Prof. Govindjee,

Thank you so much for your help. I tried your suggestions. And in my code, the second method works.

If you have time, can you please explain a little bit about the meaning of parameters in command 'convection,,2,4'? I guess '4' represents thermal DOF, but what about '2'?

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Wenya

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Re: Can convection element be used in the thermo-mechanical modeling
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2018, 12:19:14 PM »
The 2 is the material set number (the default value is the material number). I would guess that if you used
convection,,,4 it would also work.  Note the material set number is the number that goes on the element cards; it allows
one to attach multiple materials to a single element.
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